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	<title>Comments on: Railing against Ruby</title>
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		<title>By: Wahoo</title>
		<link>http://blog.uncommons.org/2007/09/24/railing-against-ruby/comment-page-1/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>Wahoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 02:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for sharing!</description>
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		<title>By: Shanti Braford</title>
		<link>http://blog.uncommons.org/2007/09/24/railing-against-ruby/comment-page-1/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>Shanti Braford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 05:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s sad that a few bad apples from the RoR community have made people feel like the ruby/rails community is full of a bunch of fanboys.

(really not trying to blogspam but I blogged more on that here): http://sablog.com/archives/2007/09/23/humans-suck-at-understanding-sample-sizes

It lowers the dialog and generally makes people on both sides look like d-bags when the debate gets lowered to the level of calling each other fanboys &amp; taking potshots at one another.  (i.e. the RailsEnvy guys might be guilty of this)

bwtaylor&#039;s sticking point, which is just silly imho, is that he likes ruby but won&#039;t use rails because a few &quot;fanboys&quot; have adopted the language and spout off on their blogs or whatever.

That&#039;s like being a Linux fan one minute and then deciding to switch back to Windows because a few fanboy linux bloggers got some attention all of a sudden.  (let&#039;s face it, &quot;fanboys&quot; exist for everything)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s sad that a few bad apples from the RoR community have made people feel like the ruby/rails community is full of a bunch of fanboys.</p>
<p>(really not trying to blogspam but I blogged more on that here): <a href="http://sablog.com/archives/2007/09/23/humans-suck-at-understanding-sample-sizes" rel="nofollow">http://sablog.com/archives/2007/09/23/humans-suck-at-understanding-sample-sizes</a></p>
<p>It lowers the dialog and generally makes people on both sides look like d-bags when the debate gets lowered to the level of calling each other fanboys &amp; taking potshots at one another.  (i.e. the RailsEnvy guys might be guilty of this)</p>
<p>bwtaylor&#8217;s sticking point, which is just silly imho, is that he likes ruby but won&#8217;t use rails because a few &#8220;fanboys&#8221; have adopted the language and spout off on their blogs or whatever.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s like being a Linux fan one minute and then deciding to switch back to Windows because a few fanboy linux bloggers got some attention all of a sudden.  (let&#8217;s face it, &#8220;fanboys&#8221; exist for everything)</p>
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		<title>By: revscat</title>
		<link>http://blog.uncommons.org/2007/09/24/railing-against-ruby/comment-page-1/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>revscat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dunno. It seems like the RoR frenzy was to a greater-or-lesser degree driven by Pragmatic Programmers, and now that they have published an Erlang book we&#039;re suddenly seeing the momentum shift in that direction.

Call me skeptical. Ruby is fine, interesting even, but it&#039;s not all that.

And Active Record sucks, sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dunno. It seems like the RoR frenzy was to a greater-or-lesser degree driven by Pragmatic Programmers, and now that they have published an Erlang book we&#8217;re suddenly seeing the momentum shift in that direction.</p>
<p>Call me skeptical. Ruby is fine, interesting even, but it&#8217;s not all that.</p>
<p>And Active Record sucks, sorry.</p>
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